[OccupySheffield] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!

Sat Dec 31 16:14:48 GMT 2011

Meant to add this:
http://jonathanrowe.org/money-cooperative-economy-in-the-great-depression

Says it all. Anna

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Anna Harris <anna at shsh.co.uk> wrote:

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> Em, you are spot on, just keep galloping. We will all join you.
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> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:05:39 +0000
>> From: Em Weirdigan <elf at weirdigans.co.uk>
>> To: J L <hemipemi at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: occupylondon at groupspaces.com, olsx.indymedia at gmail.com,
>>        occupysheffield at email-lists.org,
>>        londoninternationalcommission at groupspaces.com
>> Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd:
>>        [Squares]       MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
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>> A lot of this is happening already, we don't need to invent it all, we
>> 'just' need to link it all up and do lots more of it, with variations!
>> Yippee!
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>> Workers' and housing co-operatives; co-housing and eco-villages; food
>> growing and box-schemes; skill-shares and labour exchanges; reuse and
>> upcycling; squatting; alternative dwelling-places (tents, caravans, huts,
>> treehouses); truly ethical businesses only (that means ones which give
>> something to the community and put people and planet before profit);
>> community-controlled micro-renewable energy sources; sustainable forest
>> management...
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>> Some of this seems normal to some of us, we need to make it normal to the
>> whole 99%!
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>> Or, do tell me if I'm on the wrong track... I might just have jumped on my
>> favourite hobby horse and gallopped off on my own... ;)
>>
>> Em x
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>> ps Here's a few tiny examples that I've been involved with or know about;
>> there must be so many thousands if we all pooled what we know!
>> http://hebdenbridgetransitiontown.org.uk/
>> http://www.radicalroutes.org.uk/
>> http://www.lilac.coop/
>> http://www.lancastercohousing.org.uk/
>> http://www.weirdigans.co.uk
>> http://www.ledfantastic.co.uk
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>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:42 PM, J L <hemipemi at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> >  Yes yes yes!
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>> > VERY interested and willing to look into the exact details and
>> > practicalities of this shift.
>> >
>> > I think a lot of it will come down to having a large enough network of
>> > occupations and facilities around the country available to maintain this
>> > off-system economy. Bike networks, resource management, (sourcing,
>> sharing,
>> > distribution), free accomodation through Occupation sites and buildings,
>> > etc, and everything with a clear route towards becoming 100% off grid.
>> >
>> > Also jobs. If it's to work we need to completely reestablish what job
>> > positions are needed in a functioning alternative society. A long term
>> > gameplan could be necessary with the assumption that a lot of early jobs
>> > would be related to the establishment and creation of the system rather
>> > than it's continued operation and maintenance.
>> >
>> > We need to look very carefully at all the mistakes that have been made
>> in
>> > small scale attempts that have been made of this. Occupation sites and
>> > public eco-villages (past and present) would all be a good point of
>> > reference). I freudean typed that last line as "Occupation sites ARE
>> public
>> > eco-villages". That might be a good principle to employ ;)
>> >
>> > Jonathan
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>> > To: olsx.indymedia at gmail.com
>> > From: elf at weirdigans.co.uk
>> > CC: marknbarrett at googlemail.com;
>> > LondonInternationalCommission at groupspaces.com;
>> > OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com; occupysheffield at email-lists.org
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>> > Subject: Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
>> > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:18:50 +0000
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>> > YES!!!
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>> > I've been trying to encourage people to do this for years... ;)
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>> > ... many people will be fearful. But if those of us with courage and/or
>> > little to lose get on with it, perhaps we can create a nice big bouncy
>> > castle of alternatives for the fearful to jump onto...?
>> >
>> > Em x
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>> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:27 PM, OLSX Indymedia <
>> olsx.indymedia at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
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>> > @George
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>> > If you had a large-scale withdrawal of labour from the 1% means of
>> > production, those alternatives become realities. I don't have time to go
>> > into this in depth now, but the overriding point is that they are one
>> and
>> > the same, not two separate factors.
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>> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM, marknbarrett at googlemail.com <
>> > marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
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>> > you raise an important point George!
>> > Sent from phone
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From: * "George Por" <george at community-intelligence.com>
>> > *Sender: * OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com
>> > *Date: *Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:51:46 +0000
>> > *To: *jamie kelsey-fry<lsxcamp at gmail.com>; <
>> > LondonInternationalCommission at groupspaces.com>
>> > *ReplyTo: * george at community-intelligence.com
>> > *Cc: *occupylondon at groupspaces.com<OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com>; <
>> > occupysheffield at email-lists.org>; <oh15 at googlegroups.com>
>> > *Subject: *Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
>> >
>> > Hmm... continuous strike? how will the 99% make a living without the
>> > alternative, non-exploitative modes of value-creation being in place?
>> >
>> > Call outs are easy; building an economic reality alternative to the
>> > dominant system is challenging! Yet what is challenging appeals me more
>> > than what is easy...
>> >
>> > george
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>> >
>> > Wow
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>> > I am with that Mayday call out 100%.
>> >
>> > "a continuous strike, a permanent
>> > withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel
>> > their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to
>> > alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to
>> > support themselves and their families"
>> >
>> > To me, this is the profound escalation that the movement needs.
>> Brilliant.
>> >
>> > Between now and May, there is enough time to make this happen as long as
>> > it becomes the focus globally very soon. Definitely something for
>> Sheffield?
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Jamie
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>> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mark Barrett <
>> > marknbarrett at googlemail.com <http://googlemail.com>> wrote:
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>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
>> > It is obvious we are headed for disaster unless we change course
>> > drastically, and we don't have a lot of time. A project is being
>> > discussed internationally in the Occupy movement - Global Strike May
>> > 2012. What we are proposing is a continuous strike, a permanent
>> > withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel
>> > their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to
>> > alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to
>> > support themselves and their families. In order to make this feasible
>> > this alternative system needs to be up and running by May 2012.
>> > Outrageous! Impossible! I agree with you. Nevertheless it has to
>> > happen if we are serious about moving from this morally bankrupt and
>> > physically damaging path we are on, to a sustainable system that puts
>> > people before profit. Join us on Take the Squares Network
>> > https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/ <
>> > https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/> . and please pass
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>> > and colleagues.
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