[OccupySheffield] OccupySheffield Digest, Vol 3, Issue 49

Sat Dec 31 16:13:06 GMT 2011

Em, you are spot on, just keep galloping. We will all join you.

Anna

Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:05:39 +0000
> From: Em Weirdigan <elf at weirdigans.co.uk>
> To: J L <hemipemi at hotmail.com>
> Cc: occupylondon at groupspaces.com, olsx.indymedia at gmail.com,
>        occupysheffield at email-lists.org,
>        londoninternationalcommission at groupspaces.com
> Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd:
>        [Squares]       MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
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>        <CAM0kvGTVUsVPrxwKSwcUY=Y=BD7rSrmMPMVwQFztvjRc7iSmPw at mail.gmail.com
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> A lot of this is happening already, we don't need to invent it all, we
> 'just' need to link it all up and do lots more of it, with variations!
> Yippee!
>
> Workers' and housing co-operatives; co-housing and eco-villages; food
> growing and box-schemes; skill-shares and labour exchanges; reuse and
> upcycling; squatting; alternative dwelling-places (tents, caravans, huts,
> treehouses); truly ethical businesses only (that means ones which give
> something to the community and put people and planet before profit);
> community-controlled micro-renewable energy sources; sustainable forest
> management...
>
> Some of this seems normal to some of us, we need to make it normal to the
> whole 99%!
>
> Or, do tell me if I'm on the wrong track... I might just have jumped on my
> favourite hobby horse and gallopped off on my own... ;)
>
> Em x
>
> ps Here's a few tiny examples that I've been involved with or know about;
> there must be so many thousands if we all pooled what we know!
> http://hebdenbridgetransitiontown.org.uk/
> http://www.radicalroutes.org.uk/
> http://www.lilac.coop/
> http://www.lancastercohousing.org.uk/
> http://www.weirdigans.co.uk
> http://www.ledfantastic.co.uk
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:42 PM, J L <hemipemi at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >  Yes yes yes!
> >
> > VERY interested and willing to look into the exact details and
> > practicalities of this shift.
> >
> > I think a lot of it will come down to having a large enough network of
> > occupations and facilities around the country available to maintain this
> > off-system economy. Bike networks, resource management, (sourcing,
> sharing,
> > distribution), free accomodation through Occupation sites and buildings,
> > etc, and everything with a clear route towards becoming 100% off grid.
> >
> > Also jobs. If it's to work we need to completely reestablish what job
> > positions are needed in a functioning alternative society. A long term
> > gameplan could be necessary with the assumption that a lot of early jobs
> > would be related to the establishment and creation of the system rather
> > than it's continued operation and maintenance.
> >
> > We need to look very carefully at all the mistakes that have been made in
> > small scale attempts that have been made of this. Occupation sites and
> > public eco-villages (past and present) would all be a good point of
> > reference). I freudean typed that last line as "Occupation sites ARE
> public
> > eco-villages". That might be a good principle to employ ;)
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > To: olsx.indymedia at gmail.com
> > From: elf at weirdigans.co.uk
> > CC: marknbarrett at googlemail.com;
> > LondonInternationalCommission at groupspaces.com;
> > OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com; occupysheffield at email-lists.org
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
> > Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:18:50 +0000
> >
> >
> > YES!!!
> >
> > I've been trying to encourage people to do this for years... ;)
> >
> > ... many people will be fearful. But if those of us with courage and/or
> > little to lose get on with it, perhaps we can create a nice big bouncy
> > castle of alternatives for the fearful to jump onto...?
> >
> > Em x
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:27 PM, OLSX Indymedia <
> olsx.indymedia at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > @George
> >
> > If you had a large-scale withdrawal of labour from the 1% means of
> > production, those alternatives become realities. I don't have time to go
> > into this in depth now, but the overriding point is that they are one and
> > the same, not two separate factors.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM, marknbarrett at googlemail.com <
> > marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > you raise an important point George!
> > Sent from phone
> > ------------------------------
> > *From: * "George Por" <george at community-intelligence.com>
> > *Sender: * OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com
> > *Date: *Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:51:46 +0000
> > *To: *jamie kelsey-fry<lsxcamp at gmail.com>; <
> > LondonInternationalCommission at groupspaces.com>
> > *ReplyTo: * george at community-intelligence.com
> > *Cc: *occupylondon at groupspaces.com<OccupyLondon at groupspaces.com>; <
> > occupysheffield at email-lists.org>; <oh15 at googlegroups.com>
> > *Subject: *Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
> >
> > Hmm... continuous strike? how will the 99% make a living without the
> > alternative, non-exploitative modes of value-creation being in place?
> >
> > Call outs are easy; building an economic reality alternative to the
> > dominant system is challenging! Yet what is challenging appeals me more
> > than what is easy...
> >
> > george
> >
> >
> > Wow
> >
> > I am with that Mayday call out 100%.
> >
> > "a continuous strike, a permanent
> > withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel
> > their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to
> > alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to
> > support themselves and their families"
> >
> > To me, this is the profound escalation that the movement needs.
> Brilliant.
> >
> > Between now and May, there is enough time to make this happen as long as
> > it becomes the focus globally very soon. Definitely something for
> Sheffield?
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Jamie
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mark Barrett <
> > marknbarrett at googlemail.com <http://googlemail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > MAYDAY! MAYDAY!
> > It is obvious we are headed for disaster unless we change course
> > drastically, and we don't have a lot of time. A project is being
> > discussed internationally in the Occupy movement - Global Strike May
> > 2012. What we are proposing is a continuous strike, a permanent
> > withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel
> > their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to
> > alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to
> > support themselves and their families. In order to make this feasible
> > this alternative system needs to be up and running by May 2012.
> > Outrageous! Impossible! I agree with you. Nevertheless it has to
> > happen if we are serious about moving from this morally bankrupt and
> > physically damaging path we are on, to a sustainable system that puts
> > people before profit. Join us on Take the Squares Network
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