[OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] voice of the voiceless 21st jan sheffield uk - unemployed / other diverse workers union ?

[jamie kelsey-fry]

No, I was up in Sheffield just now, for a day and saw the Citadel of Hope
and it's going to host an amazing national Occupy convention on that
weekend.

All power to Sheffield Occupy and thanks for the hospitality!

Keep It Lit

Jamie

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Mark Barrett
<marknbarrett at googlemail.com>wrote:

> Dear Dawn and Everyone
>
> Please see Jamie's email below. Jamie are you on the Sheffield email list
> (cc/d) ? If not you should be on it you diamond :)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mark
>
> On 29 December 2011 10:18, jamie kelsey-fry <lsxcamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all
>>
>> Is this rally part of the national occupy conference that's starting on
>> the same day in Sheffield?
>>
>> J
>>
>>  On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Mark Barrett <
>> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   Rally of the 99%
>>> 21st January Sheffield
>>> .. please see message below from Dawn
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: <barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com>
>>> Date: 28 December 2011 19:45
>>> Subject: RE: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious
>>> consideration
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mark,
>>> Could you pls send to the list - this keeps happening, where I think I'm
>>> replying to your/other's thread on the list, but a visually impaired
>>> computer user, and don't always know which address is where etc.
>>>
>>> Hope to meet you if you make it up here for the occupy gathering and the
>>> rally.
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
>>>  Sent: 28 December 2011 18:12
>>> To: barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com; Anna Harris
>>> Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious
>>> consideration
>>>
>>> Hi Dawn -- thanks for this, sounds great but, like your earlier message
>>> you
>>> only sent it to me, maybe you should be writing to the wider community on
>>> this? I've cc'd Anna Harris as she's expressed a strong interest in the
>>> idea
>>> also, to maybe chat some more here  but I do think you should also mail
>>> the
>>> whole Sheffield list which I understand is a national one  ( I am based
>>> in
>>> London btw). Very keen to help with this further, just not sure how best
>>> to
>>> yet! Grr about losing your post, that's such an annoying experience. Mark
>>> Sent from phone
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:04:21
>>> To: 'Mark Barrett'<marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious
>>> consideration
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I hit something the other night in the middle of my thread re an
>>> unemployed/diverse workers group and the rest went out the window.
>>>
>>> Basically, it has been suggested 'several times' during the course of me
>>> attending SACA meetings (Sheffield Anti-Cuts Alliance) which on the
>>> whole I
>>> don't tend to do anymore; the upshot was, from the "hardest hit" demo
>>> last
>>> may, was the DPU, instead of a more sensibly driven combined effort
>>> between
>>> both those of us who are unemployed and/or have additional needs.
>>> Unfortunately too, SACA is an agenda-driven umbrella grouping, with a
>>> lot of
>>> left-wing sectarian tug-of-warring, with an executive, who's members are
>>> too
>>> tied to union affiliation (in my humble opinion).
>>>
>>> Whatta shame, because Sheffield, with its long industrial history, has
>>> become disempowered if your long term unemployed.
>>>
>>> And, that is just what 'the Rally of the 99%: the Voice of the Voiceless
>>> will be promoting on 21 January.
>>> It will now be in conjunction with the occupy conference here in
>>> Sheffield,
>>> but I have been organising it for a month now and almost have all the
>>> speakers we need to represent the unrepresented i.e. those without
>>> union...!
>>> I have, a speaker from Occupy Sheffield, a well-known representative of
>>> Chesterfield Unemployed workers, myself (to speak on behalf of 'people'
>>> with
>>> additional needs) A visually impaired entrepreneur (to further promote a
>>> more 'can do' aspect of having additional needs/challenges) a speaker
>>> from
>>> SACA and a speaker to promote a socialist alternative to the current
>>> Cystem!
>>> I still need some one to speak on behalf of people with mental health
>>> conditions, homelessness, an ethnic minority group and maybe a tenancy
>>> association, that will all be in the bag along with the comference
>>> hoasted
>>> here in Sheffield.
>>>
>>> Occupy is the perfect nonhierarchical organised community to set up an
>>> unemployed/diverse workers union (or whatever we decide to call it), but
>>> as
>>> I say, I'm personally not involved in the DPU, because having additional
>>> needs equates to more than just being on benefits; some people still have
>>> jobs whatever their additional needs and, despite the bringing in of the
>>> DDA
>>> ('dis-ability Discrimination Act) there is still precious little
>>> advocating
>>> for an equal playing field among paid employment (and in my experience)
>>> even
>>> volunteer work is discriminatory - a SLAP-IN-THE-FACE when you are
>>> offering
>>> skills free of charge, rather than assuming a "needy" position in the
>>> pecking order.
>>>
>>> End of rant, but I hope people will think on these points and come to the
>>> rally on the 21st - I'm hoping to have it at town hall in Sheffield (as
>>> not
>>> to just preach to the converted, within the space of the occupy camp) and
>>> haven't done the flyers yet.
>>>
>>> In solidarity to you all and lets step up the resistance against a nasty
>>> ailing capitalist Cystem!
>>>
>>> Dawn
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mark Barrett [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
>>> Sent: 27 December 2011 08:39
>>> To: barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com
>>> Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious
>>> consideration
>>>
>>> Thanks for the thanks  and yes, you're right, exactly! Do promote this
>>> idea further on the list, would  be great if it could be featured at
>>> the next national occupy gathering. i will post about it again now..
>>>
>>> On 25 December 2011 01:58,  <barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>> > Thanks for this uplifting contribution!  Yes, a lot of us who are long
>>> term
>>> > unemployed, the fact that some of us have additional needs/challenges
>>> should
>>> > be beside the point...
>>> > The thing that puts me personally right off, is groups such as the DPU
>>> focus
>>> > almost solly on the fact that: 'dis-abled people are having their
>>> benefits
>>> > cuts, rather than, portraying us as able
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
>>> > Sent: 24 December 2011 19:26
>>> > To: Mike Evison; Occupy Sheffield Mailing; occupylondon
>>> > Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious
>>> consideration
>>> >
>>> > Hey Rick B and Mike - I agree 100% with this. It's exactly what Occupy
>>> UK
>>> > should be focusing on imo. The right to decent, liberating and well
>>> paid
>>> > work for everyone goes to the very heart of what will one day make a
>>> great,
>>> > productive and enlightened society. I know there was an unemployed
>>> workers
>>> > union of some kind (possibly of SWP origin) coming out of Salford and
>>> > Manchester a while back but what's needed now is something high
>>> profile,
>>> > ambitious and r'evolutionary -  just the kind of thing Occupy should be
>>> > generating on a national level. Personally I would happily flier at my
>>> local
>>> > job centre and do other local activities on this front. Also the
>>> universal
>>> > benefit initiative of IDS will need a collective response. Mark B  PS I
>>> > wrote a short piece on the future of work ( in a real democracy )
>>> earlier
>>> > this year, here:
>>> >
>>> http://righttowork.org.uk/2011/07/real-democracy-and-the-future-of-work/
>>> > which people may or may not agree with!   ;-)
>>> > Sent from phone
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Mike Evison <sunset74 at btinternet.com>
>>> > Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:35:49
>>> > To: Occupy Sheffield Mailing<occupysheffield at email-lists.org>
>>> > Subject: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious consideration
>>> >Mike Evison sunset74 at btinternet.com
>>> 24 Dec (5 days ago)
>>> to Occupy
>>>
>>> The following email from Rick B needs serious consideration because at
>>> present the unemployed and the disabled have no official representation and
>>> have become the whipping boys for the Con-Dem government who are the 1%
>>> representatives.
>>>
>>> They are all in vulnerable situations and have no way of defending their
>>> rights, what ever they may be at this present time. If they are left to
>>> wither and die through ignorance from those who are still fortunate, then
>>> another group will be chosen to be picked off and so the process will go on
>>> until we have no rights in this country.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick B email:
>>> Hi camp,
>>> I'm fed up with being unemployed and disabled and being pushed and
>>> pulled by rich politicians. I'm trying to make contact with someone from
>>> the Unemployed Workers Union, do you have any contacts? If there are no
>>> Sheffield branches, it is something I am considering setting up. Would
>>> there be support for such a union within your camp?
>>> It strikes me that the unemployed and disabled are getting trampled on
>>> more than any other group in society due to not having adequate
>>> representation. The mainstream unions are pretty much looking after their
>>> members and not representing the interests of the less well off. The
>>> mainstream political parties are all 'in it together' with the bankers and
>>> multi-nationals. Maybe 3 million angry unemployed and disabled people in
>>> union and on a mission will send them a message hard to forget.
>>> Thanks, happy Xmas
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
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