[OccupySheffield] [Occupy London] voice of the voiceless 21st jan sheffield uk - unemployed / other diverse workers union ?

Thu Dec 29 10:25:58 GMT 2011

Dear Dawn and Everyone

Please see Jamie's email below. Jamie are you on the Sheffield email list
(cc/d) ? If not you should be on it you diamond :)

Cheers!

Mark

On 29 December 2011 10:18, jamie kelsey-fry <lsxcamp at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey all
>
> Is this rally part of the national occupy conference that's starting on
> the same day in Sheffield?
>
> J
>
>  On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Mark Barrett <
> marknbarrett at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>   Rally of the 99%
>> 21st January Sheffield
>> .. please see message below from Dawn
>>
>> Mark
>>  ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: <barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com>
>> Date: 28 December 2011 19:45
>> Subject: RE: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious consideration
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>> Could you pls send to the list - this keeps happening, where I think I'm
>> replying to your/other's thread on the list, but a visually impaired
>> computer user, and don't always know which address is where etc.
>>
>> Hope to meet you if you make it up here for the occupy gathering and the
>> rally.
>>
>> Dawn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
>>  Sent: 28 December 2011 18:12
>> To: barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com; Anna Harris
>> Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious consideration
>>
>> Hi Dawn -- thanks for this, sounds great but, like your earlier message
>> you
>> only sent it to me, maybe you should be writing to the wider community on
>> this? I've cc'd Anna Harris as she's expressed a strong interest in the
>> idea
>> also, to maybe chat some more here  but I do think you should also mail
>> the
>> whole Sheffield list which I understand is a national one  ( I am based in
>> London btw). Very keen to help with this further, just not sure how best
>> to
>> yet! Grr about losing your post, that's such an annoying experience. Mark
>> Sent from phone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: <barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:04:21
>> To: 'Mark Barrett'<marknbarrett at googlemail.com>
>> Subject: RE: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious consideration
>>
>> Hi,
>> I hit something the other night in the middle of my thread re an
>> unemployed/diverse workers group and the rest went out the window.
>>
>> Basically, it has been suggested 'several times' during the course of me
>> attending SACA meetings (Sheffield Anti-Cuts Alliance) which on the whole
>> I
>> don't tend to do anymore; the upshot was, from the "hardest hit" demo last
>> may, was the DPU, instead of a more sensibly driven combined effort
>> between
>> both those of us who are unemployed and/or have additional needs.
>> Unfortunately too, SACA is an agenda-driven umbrella grouping, with a lot
>> of
>> left-wing sectarian tug-of-warring, with an executive, who's members are
>> too
>> tied to union affiliation (in my humble opinion).
>>
>> Whatta shame, because Sheffield, with its long industrial history, has
>> become disempowered if your long term unemployed.
>>
>> And, that is just what 'the Rally of the 99%: the Voice of the Voiceless
>> will be promoting on 21 January.
>> It will now be in conjunction with the occupy conference here in
>> Sheffield,
>> but I have been organising it for a month now and almost have all the
>> speakers we need to represent the unrepresented i.e. those without
>> union...!
>> I have, a speaker from Occupy Sheffield, a well-known representative of
>> Chesterfield Unemployed workers, myself (to speak on behalf of 'people'
>> with
>> additional needs) A visually impaired entrepreneur (to further promote a
>> more 'can do' aspect of having additional needs/challenges) a speaker from
>> SACA and a speaker to promote a socialist alternative to the current
>> Cystem!
>> I still need some one to speak on behalf of people with mental health
>> conditions, homelessness, an ethnic minority group and maybe a tenancy
>> association, that will all be in the bag along with the comference hoasted
>> here in Sheffield.
>>
>> Occupy is the perfect nonhierarchical organised community to set up an
>> unemployed/diverse workers union (or whatever we decide to call it), but
>> as
>> I say, I'm personally not involved in the DPU, because having additional
>> needs equates to more than just being on benefits; some people still have
>> jobs whatever their additional needs and, despite the bringing in of the
>> DDA
>> ('dis-ability Discrimination Act) there is still precious little
>> advocating
>> for an equal playing field among paid employment (and in my experience)
>> even
>> volunteer work is discriminatory - a SLAP-IN-THE-FACE when you are
>> offering
>> skills free of charge, rather than assuming a "needy" position in the
>> pecking order.
>>
>> End of rant, but I hope people will think on these points and come to the
>> rally on the 21st - I'm hoping to have it at town hall in Sheffield (as
>> not
>> to just preach to the converted, within the space of the occupy camp) and
>> haven't done the flyers yet.
>>
>> In solidarity to you all and lets step up the resistance against a nasty
>> ailing capitalist Cystem!
>>
>> Dawn
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Barrett [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
>> Sent: 27 December 2011 08:39
>> To: barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com
>> Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious consideration
>>
>> Thanks for the thanks  and yes, you're right, exactly! Do promote this
>> idea further on the list, would  be great if it could be featured at
>> the next national occupy gathering. i will post about it again now..
>>
>> On 25 December 2011 01:58,  <barriers2bridges at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks for this uplifting contribution!  Yes, a lot of us who are long
>> term
>> > unemployed, the fact that some of us have additional needs/challenges
>> should
>> > be beside the point...
>> > The thing that puts me personally right off, is groups such as the DPU
>> focus
>> > almost solly on the fact that: 'dis-abled people are having their
>> benefits
>> > cuts, rather than, portraying us as able
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: marknbarrett at googlemail.com [mailto:marknbarrett at googlemail.com]
>> > Sent: 24 December 2011 19:26
>> > To: Mike Evison; Occupy Sheffield Mailing; occupylondon
>> > Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious
>> consideration
>> >
>> > Hey Rick B and Mike - I agree 100% with this. It's exactly what Occupy
>> UK
>> > should be focusing on imo. The right to decent, liberating and well paid
>> > work for everyone goes to the very heart of what will one day make a
>> great,
>> > productive and enlightened society. I know there was an unemployed
>> workers
>> > union of some kind (possibly of SWP origin) coming out of Salford and
>> > Manchester a while back but what's needed now is something high profile,
>> > ambitious and r'evolutionary -  just the kind of thing Occupy should be
>> > generating on a national level. Personally I would happily flier at my
>> local
>> > job centre and do other local activities on this front. Also the
>> universal
>> > benefit initiative of IDS will need a collective response. Mark B  PS I
>> > wrote a short piece on the future of work ( in a real democracy )
>> earlier
>> > this year, here:
>> >
>> http://righttowork.org.uk/2011/07/real-democracy-and-the-future-of-work/
>> > which people may or may not agree with!   ;-)
>> > Sent from phone
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Mike Evison <sunset74 at btinternet.com>
>> > Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:35:49
>> > To: Occupy Sheffield Mailing<occupysheffield at email-lists.org>
>> > Subject: [OccupySheffield] I think this warrants serious consideration
>> >Mike Evison sunset74 at btinternet.com
>> 24 Dec (5 days ago)
>> to Occupy
>>
>> The following email from Rick B needs serious consideration because at
>> present the unemployed and the disabled have no official representation and
>> have become the whipping boys for the Con-Dem government who are the 1%
>> representatives.
>>
>> They are all in vulnerable situations and have no way of defending their
>> rights, what ever they may be at this present time. If they are left to
>> wither and die through ignorance from those who are still fortunate, then
>> another group will be chosen to be picked off and so the process will go on
>> until we have no rights in this country.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> Rick B email:
>> Hi camp,
>> I'm fed up with being unemployed and disabled and being pushed and pulled
>> by rich politicians. I'm trying to make contact with someone from the
>> Unemployed Workers Union, do you have any contacts? If there are no
>> Sheffield branches, it is something I am considering setting up. Would
>> there be support for such a union within your camp?
>> It strikes me that the unemployed and disabled are getting trampled on
>> more than any other group in society due to not having adequate
>> representation. The mainstream unions are pretty much looking after their
>> members and not representing the interests of the less well off. The
>> mainstream political parties are all 'in it together' with the bankers and
>> multi-nationals. Maybe 3 million angry unemployed and disabled people in
>> union and on a mission will send them a message hard to forget.
>> Thanks, happy Xmas
>> Rick
>>
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