<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>My statement '</span><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Power corrupts - even those sad individuals who have found their 'niche' in the occupy camps'</span> was certainly NOT directed at Nicole!!</span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">I thank Nicole (and others) who have worked tirelessly behind the scenes, making things happen. Do you really think that Occupy Sheffield would have</span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">existed for 3 months without people like Nicole working so hard in the background and moving things on.
<br></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">The Citadel has not, as far as I am aware, been '</span><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">handed over to circus people' but rather a co-operative of arts related groups (including circus!). <br></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"> Doug, from The Invisible Circus, has led/been involved in many activities of a similar nature - acquiring premises for use by community groups. <br></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"> If he had not come up with his proposal to utilise the space, for the benefit of community groups, in an organised, professional way after 21 February, I believe that we would be evicted by
the owner. </span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">There is no need to fight anyone. If handled correctly by someone who knows what they are doing, there shouldn't be a problem. The only problem I can see is that some people feel that their voice is not heard and refuse to believe that anyone can do something for the greater good and not just for their own best interests.</span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">I truly hope that this proposed use of the Citadel hasn't been fouled up. <br></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"> I would hate to think that the Citadel ends up 'squatted' as some numpty on the Citadel Facebook has suggested. <br></span></div><div><br><span
class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;">Leela<br></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"> <br></span></div><div><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533225" style="font-family: "serif"; color: black;"> <br></span></div><br><div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "barriers2bridges@virginmedia.com" <barriers2bridges@virginmedia.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Leela Simms' <leela.simms@yahoo.co.uk>; 'Mick Ibbotson'
<zapatista2010@googlemail.com>; occupysheffield@email-lists.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 8 February 2012, 13:05<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [OccupySheffield] [OccupySheffieldPrivate] public GAs<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv2135464191"><style><!--
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--></style><div><div class="yiv2135464191WordSection1"><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Who ever said you or anyone has no say in decisions, just because you haven’t slept there, is wrong, out-of-order and doesn’t deserved to be involved in a movement where some can physically camp there and some can’t.</span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Power-craving people, who take it on themselves to make unilateral decisions (SUCH AS NICOLE) i.e. making the decision to hand over the citadel to Circus without group consensus, are just perpetuating negative energy, ‘LACK OF TRANSPARENCY’ and self-serving clique elitism!</span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div
class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span class="yui_3_2_0_29_1328520102533189" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I propose: at tonight’s GA that we as Occupy Sheffield vote on whether or not we want to fight for the citadel, as the landlor</span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">d apparently needs to know one way or the other.</span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Well, this is just what I’ve been able to make sense of so far, in an increasingly chaotic situation.</span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">X Dawn x </span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";" lang="EN-US"> Leela Simms [mailto:leela.simms@yahoo.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> 07 February 2012 10:05<br><b>To:</b> Mick Ibbotson; occupysheffield@email-lists.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OccupySheffield] [OccupySheffieldPrivate] public GAs</span></div></div></div><div
class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">I'm as confused as most people seem to be!! Is there a GA tonight or not - I was told that they were Tues, Thurs & Saturday but </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">this seems to have been changed (yet again) I know ................ let's have another GA to decide (for the benefit of those not present</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">at previous GAs but who don't want to be excluded from decision making) and, of course, we have to include everyone in our decisions</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">(unless you have never slept on camp and then you have no part to play in the decision as to whether the camp remains or not) I was</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">told this on my last visit to camp and have come away feeling very EXCLUDED from the 'elitist' group of individuals who seem to be</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">running the camp.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">Mick - you describe yourself as an 'outsider'. Well, that's how I feel now, even though I have been involved since day 1 and was one of the 'elite'
</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">who took the Citadel on 28 December and spent the following 3 weeks cleaning the place to get it ready for the National Conference!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">Now I have been told that I have no say in decision making about the camp. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;">Power corrupts - even those sad individuals who have found their 'niche' in the occupy camps.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> Mick Ibbotson <zapatista2010@googlemail.com><br><b>To:</b> occupysheffield@email-lists.org <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 7:59<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OccupySheffieldPrivate] [OccupySheffield] public GAs</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div><div id="yiv2135464191"><div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Is this decision a reversal of last weeks - last published (27th Jan) GA decision to hold GA's on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday? Will this decision be changed again - say next week to Monday, Wednesday, Saturday? dependent on who runs the GA? It might be helpful to list attendees so people can see who reached 'consensus</span><span
style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">As an outsider, its impossible to commit to GA's as you keep moving the goalposts - from what I experienced at the Citadel on sunday - you have bigger issues to consider rather than whether to serve digestives or rich tea with the camp tea? Perhaps its just me, but something is not right and the falling off of numbers seems to underline it. Most revolutions tend to gain momentum, with Occupy its going the other way.</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Mick</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lookinluckout.blogspot.com/">http://lookinluckout.blogspot.com/</a></span></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">----- Original Message ----- </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:flyingtroutx@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:flyingtroutx@hotmail.com" title="flyingtroutx@hotmail.com">Sarah Wild</a> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">To:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:occupysheffield@email-lists.org" title="occupysheffield@email-lists.org">occupysheffield@email-lists.org</a> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> Monday, February 06, 2012 11:44 PM</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> [OccupySheffield] public GAs</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Sorry, misleading title as every GA is public. </span></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal"
style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">It was decided at the meeting tonight (again I think!) that we would have GAs at camp/citadel on Monday, Weds and Friday - to leave Tuesday and Thursday free for working group/ alternative meetings. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Most people agreed it would be good to have a Saturday public GA slot somewhere outside of the established Occupy spaces. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">I think the town hall would be good, at around 3pm. However, I don't think this should be a normal GA. What about it
being something along the lines of, "Occupy, What's it all about? What do we want, What do we want to achieve?"</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Anyway, it's late and I'm rambling. Would just appreciate some input on where people think this should go. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">Thanks loads</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="color:black;">x</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv2135464191MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;background:white;" align="center"><span style="color:black;"><hr
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