@George<div><br></div><div>If you had a large-scale withdrawal of labour from the 1% means of production, those alternatives become realities. I don't have time to go into this in depth now, but the overriding point is that they are one and the same, not two separate factors.</div>
<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 11:25 AM, <a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>you raise an important point George! <div>Sent from phone</div><hr><div><b>From: </b> "George Por" <<a href="mailto:george@community-intelligence.com" target="_blank">george@community-intelligence.com</a>>
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</div><div><b>Date: </b>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 10:51:46 +0000</div><div><b>To: </b>jamie kelsey-fry<<a href="mailto:lsxcamp@gmail.com" target="_blank">lsxcamp@gmail.com</a>>; <<a href="mailto:LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com" target="_blank">LondonInternationalCommission@groupspaces.com</a>></div>
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<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Occupy London] Re: [INT] Fwd: [Squares] MAYDAY! MAYDAY!</div><div><br></div>
<font color="#800000"><font><font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="font-size:12pt">Hmm... continuous strike? how will the 99% make a living without the alternative, non-exploitative modes of value-creation being in place?<br>
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Call outs are easy; building an economic reality alternative to the dominant system is challenging! Yet what is challenging appeals me more than what is easy...<br>
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george<br>
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Wow<br>
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I am with that Mayday call out 100%. <br>
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"a continuous strike, a permanent<br>
withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel<br>
their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to<br>
alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to<br>
support themselves and their families"<br>
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To me, this is the profound escalation that the movement needs. Brilliant.<br>
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Between now and May, there is enough time to make this happen as long as it becomes the focus globally very soon. Definitely something for Sheffield?<br>
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Best<br>
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Jamie <br>
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On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Mark Barrett <<a href="http://marknbarrett@googlemail.com" target="_blank">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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MAYDAY! MAYDAY!<br>
It is obvious we are headed for disaster unless we change course<br>
drastically, and we don't have a lot of time. A project is being<br>
discussed internationally in the Occupy movement - Global Strike May<br>
2012. What we are proposing is a continuous strike, a permanent<br>
withdrawal from the current system, a signal for all those who feel<br>
their work to be meaningless and unsatisfying, to switch to<br>
alternative means which are beneficial to the whole community, to<br>
support themselves and their families. In order to make this feasible<br>
this alternative system needs to be up and running by May 2012.<br>
Outrageous! Impossible! I agree with you. Nevertheless it has to<br>
happen if we are serious about moving from this morally bankrupt and<br>
physically damaging path we are on, to a sustainable system that puts<br>
people before profit. Join us on Take the Squares Network<br>
<a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/</a> <<a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/1010883/15m-global-strike/</a>> . and please pass<br>
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and colleagues.<br>
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