Thanks Mark for this, very interesting article. as you might me aware I have been thinking and working on such social network union[ism] idea, and trying to implement it with gaia [experiment], <div><br></div><div><div>this was the original experiemnt <a href="http://openfsm.net/projects/gaia/summary">http://openfsm.net/projects/gaia/summary</a></div>
<div>now it is moved to here <a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/943821/global-alliance-for-immediate-alteration-gaia/">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/943821/global-alliance-for-immediate-alteration-gaia/</a> </div></div><div><br>
</div><div>Besides my limited capacity and lack of real participation to it the rise of global indignados made it secondary experiemnt, </div><div><br></div><div>Now it may be a good time to collectively activate it and transform this experiment into a truly horizontal p2p project. Actually, the rising of the arab spring, 15M and occupy movement have created a great chance to do this.</div>
<div> <div>So. I would like to make a concrete proposal and hope everybody reads and welcomes it: </div><div><br><div>Reading you message i think it is time to bring labour-realted occupants and intesrested activists to build such transnational networked union from the basis in a horizntal way based on concensus and assebly principles and on individual peerage. [even these principles needs to be collectively thought of course] </div>
<div><br></div><div>That's why I would like to suggest creation of such a new commons/grassroots/renakandfile/wiki union, as an agenda topic for the neext IRC meeting on global strike. If we can proceed then I think ir can be easer to think and act collectively in the lead to european and global stirke projects for occupy alternatives. </div>
<div>such new labour self organisation from the bottom would make a very big and positive transformatory impact on the existing union structures, i believe, while providing self alternative for billions of unprotected employed or unemployed, working people. </div>
<div><br></div><div>in solidarity! </div><div><br></div><div>Orsan</div><div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/12/29 Mark Barrett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marknbarrett@googlemail.com">marknbarrett@googlemail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">hey neb, nicky,orsan, niel and everyone!<br>
<br>
not sure if it fits but your post about a new labor movement reminded<br>
me of a discussion some of us are having in the uk about the need for<br>
a new union, or union network, or some such for unemployed and diverse<br>
other ('dis-abled', for example being a problematic formulation)<br>
workers.<br>
<br>
what aims such a union/network might hold would obviously be subject<br>
to horizontal formulation, but some ideas are mentioned on the other<br>
thread, just posted on titled 'voice of the voiceless 21st jan<br>
sheffield uk - unemployed / other diverse workers union ?'<br>
<br>
some of us privately liked the idea of a campaign for the "right to a<br>
living wage and opportunities for meaningful, liberating, well-paid<br>
work for all" for example. would be great to link this kind of<br>
thinking to the european mobilisations being planned for the spring<br>
because europe, like usa but with the added impetus of its<br>
constitutional crisis, desperately needs a new labor movement that<br>
fits the needs of the 21st century...<br>
<br>
[ and personally i think that something along these lines could revive<br>
employment and social productivity but towards a community-based,<br>
ecologically and politically sound ( ie democratic and emancipatory )<br>
economy, hence an article, ( admittedly sketchy ;) written back in<br>
july <a href="http://righttowork.org.uk/2011/07/real-democracy-and-the-future-of-work/" target="_blank">http://righttowork.org.uk/2011/07/real-democracy-and-the-future-of-work/</a><br>
]<br>
<br>
i hope this helps!!<br>
<br>
love and solidarity<br>
<br>
mark<br>
sent to squares international communication platform cc/ sheffield-uk<br>
national email list, london international commission, oh15<br>
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On 29 December 2011 07:57, Neb <<a href="mailto:Neb@occupywallst.org">Neb@occupywallst.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Excellent idea. I was writing something a very similar tactic way back<br>
> in August so I'll need to find the file to share so you can take some<br>
> of the ideas I had. America needs a new labor movement and this would<br>
> be a great foundation to get the ball rolling. If our small affinity<br>
> group can prop up Occupy we should be able to prop this up as well.<br>
> Our bureaucratic unions in America are worthless so a wikistrike won't<br>
> affect America that much so we need to incorporate other tactics as<br>
> well besides striking. Building a new labor movement from ground up is<br>
> going to be a real challenge in America especially in our prolonged<br>
> recession but I think it can be done.<br>
><br>
> We'll need to get in touch with our allies in Europe again very soon<br>
> if we are serious. After the New Years it's time to get the ball<br>
> rolling again and start something bigger than Occupy. That'll give us<br>
> five months to agitate, organize and educate compared to measly two<br>
> months we had.<br>
> Any advice from Europe?<br>
><br>
> Thanks and solidarity.<br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
><br>
nikky schiller<br>
05:55 (3 hours ago)<br>
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more Report phishingHello everyone,<br>
i apologize i haven´t been able to be at the meeting yesterday, I had<br>
appoiment with the hospital and working with global revolution takes<br>
my whole time...<br>
But i would like to keep talking and proposing ideas that i have been<br>
thinking about this " strike" , or named in another name that means<br>
"stop working for the corrupt system to organize ourselves in a better<br>
way".<br>
I think that to be successful in this project, we would need to make a<br>
big database of all the entities that could form a pararell and fair<br>
market to start working in the consecution of a market which wants to<br>
distribute the wealth to all the people around the world without<br>
iniquity.<br>
I give you an example of the format like<br>
<a href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites/" target="_blank">http://www.craigslist.org/about/sites/</a> where you can find by all<br>
around the world many different resources.<br>
We could add to this kind of list: cooperatives, sustainable<br>
companies, farmers, inventors, solidarity banks, barters, classifieds,<br>
ecologic products, free patents,... so the people could have this<br>
information in their hands and could make a election about their<br>
choice of consume. The newspapers, tv channels , radio stations of<br>
this movement could promote this information, so we could channel the<br>
consume to get a healthier and optimal consume for the whole<br>
community.<br>
In another hand, regarding the minimun services that should not<br>
stopped by the security of the health of the people, i think that it<br>
could be a good exercise of sharing comradership and solidarity to<br>
maket all needed services being covered by the Community.<br>
In Sol square, we created a small selfsufficient world with all<br>
public services covered, it was a good example of what our world in a<br>
big scale can make self -sufficient if all the Community is involved.<br>
I look forward your comments, and ideas to improve proposal.<br>
best<br>
Nikky<br>
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Orsan Senalp <<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Same time same place this evening? sorry that i could not respond the<br>
below emails, i had to sell my labour last two weeks, and felt luck to<br>
be able to do so! this have to change, we need to be able to provide a<br>
very clear vision of an alternative much better life, so people do not<br>
support idiotic fascist programs just becasue that need to feel<br>
secure. Let me post here below again the WIkiStike idea so Manuel and<br>
others we can try to think of a positive, productive, creative, and<br>
impactful new generation stirke that can combine the power of<br>
knowledge workers+precariat+proleteriat and indigenous people. Here is<br>
the short idea for a WikiStrike: Thanks Anna for the modification!<br>
<br>
<br>
What is WikiStrike!<br>
WikiStrike is an open ended and open to all form of strike different<br>
from traditional methods used mainly by unionised workers and aimed at<br>
improving working conditions and living standards by changing the<br>
behaviour of the employer or political ruler.<br>
In addition to using the power we have in terms of the production<br>
process, with WikiStrikes we utilize the power coming from<br>
hyper-connectivity and the collective hyper intelligence/creativity we<br>
posses today in order to protect life, justice and peace -be it at<br>
local, national or international level.<br>
All forces of social change can join in the global WikiStrike process<br>
and work in a collaborative way to achieve these objectives.<br>
Arab Revolutionaries, Spanish Indignados and Global Occupiers have<br>
proven that the WikiStrike is not only an idea, it is both possible<br>
and effective.<br>
----------------------<br>
We are withnessing the rise of new generation stirkes that are<br>
organised as swarm like direct actions and combining the power ceoming<br>
from production with the power coming from<br>
communication/hyperconnectivity. These new generation strikes are<br>
often harmonises many kind of direct actions in a positive, assertive,<br>
productive and creative framework. This open framework can be named as<br>
WikiStrike.<br>
In terms of public services good example can be the provision of free<br>
services to the public, or reaprepriation of the stolen private<br>
information of the consumers and workers by large companies. autoreter<br>
and brutaity state posture, and general offensive towards democratic<br>
and social rights will be the overarching theme. basic income and less<br>
working hours too will be leading themes I think, as well as free<br>
ulture, information, anti-war, anti violent as well.<br>
On this page we ar egoing to investigate and develop this new<br>
poweerful tool of the self-organised working man.<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/964050/world-wide-wikistrike/" target="_blank">https://n-1.cc/pg/groups/964050/world-wide-wikistrike/</a><br>
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another think is about the date dicussion, as some others I also don't<br>
care the exact date. It is important though to have a warm climate and<br>
good spring mode and total consensus among the asesemblies, so the<br>
peoples involved,<br>
12 May, 15 May have been two good candidates, We needed to decide<br>
fast but also be careful not to hurry, so collectivity and consensus<br>
get ignored, this is the most important thig. I think in this sense it<br>
has been a good intention and initiative but a mistake to launch 12<br>
May without wider consesus provided.<br>
The idea as i got it was to spread it and seek for wider consesus at<br>
the first place. we need to talk about this this evening?<br>
another thing I could not communicate before on the strike and date<br>
meetings was our avoidance from the 1st May, becasue may be we are<br>
assuming that it blongs to the uninon movement! if so it is wrong. In<br>
the Netherlands and several european countries it is not even<br>
celebrated by the union movemetn. It symbolises the fight for 8 hour<br>
work day and other rights won by the indignados, of the time. So<br>
instead of leaving that date out, to unions, we need to reclaim it I<br>
believe. That can be a key to link up with the rank and file union<br>
members. and promote such new generation mass strikes, that can put<br>
pressure on the elite globally, not in the west of in the east alone.<br>
hope we can talk with wider participation this evening. and i would<br>
like to suggest using mumble and irc at the same time so we can write<br>
down the minutes and be able to express ourselves by words at the same<br>
time!..<br>
<br>
<br>
In solidairty!<br>
Orsan<br>
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2011/12/21 Manuel <<a href="mailto:manuel@whiteflag.info">manuel@whiteflag.info</a>><br>
<br>
It might be that, as Michelle - chessypig- saysis day and Anna<br>
before, I have not<br>
<br>
understood the meaning of the action due to the name strike - hit. I might<br>
have missed some points, and if I did not actively support then the call for<br>
an strike same reason; its name. So, as you are in a hurry, maybe It is no<br>
point that I get into your ???? (we can talk about it another day) but just<br>
your concrete question as per below for courtesy sake<br>
<br>
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Sent: miércoles, 21 de diciembre de 2011 16:19<br>
To: <a href="mailto:squares@lists.takethesquare.net">squares@lists.takethesquare.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Squares] M15 Global Long Term Strike<br>
<br>
I'm totally in disagreament with a large part of your mail so I dont know<br>
how to start because I donẗ have a lot of time right now to enter in<br>
this clarifications.<br>
> When you pushed forwards your call for a global strike (probably with<br>
> much less support than the call to the 12th) in the squares meeting<br>
> long ago, I said I do not agree, but I would not oppose (and so you<br>
> got it against other people opposition).<br>
You was against for a strike and you was alone, chessypig was against during<br>
all the debate but changed his mind at the end of the meeting and we found<br>
consensus, but all the other participants was for, not just a general<br>
strike, but especially this kind of new strike (transition strike, 2.0, call<br>
it a you want)<br>
<br>
> I understand that historically left wing and progressive thinking has<br>
> confronted state deception to his own people with the same coin;<br>
> irrationality, call it dialectic and in this way has actually obtained<br>
> some achievements (when the West was the whole world). And this is<br>
> what a strike means,<br>
???<br>
<br>
but, in my understanding, a strike will have a mixed effect (it<br>
> could<br>
> be good effect, but I sincerely think rather bad, it might put the<br>
> whole under risk. A global long term strike????) therefore I did not<br>
agree.<br>
??? can you explain risk??? I will understand why you did not agree.<br>
<br>
<br>
My meaning of risk means to put in danger the whole movement in an<br>
inappropriate action<br>
<br>
<br>
The<br>
> way for the state to defuse those initiatives is to oppose other civil<br>
> people who comply with their duties, but the state itself will not get<br>
> involved in any dialectic which put itself into question). Now, as we<br>
> discussed in the meeting that day, we shall not follow the old<br>
> patterns anymore, the reason why state leaders have to deceive their<br>
> people and concentrate more and more resources in the 1% is to keep<br>
> the 99% in precarious condition and make them obey and in this way the<br>
> state is competitive (but this richness concentration is not because<br>
> the state want a few people living very well, as many think, or<br>
> because the state cannot avoid it) but as a consequence of the always<br>
> ongoing cold or warm war in the world as ever war (even if cold) is<br>
> the real business of the state, this is human tragedy, and this is<br>
> what we have to face now and consider as most important of all to<br>
> change the world.<br>
We dont talk about the same thing I think<br>
<br>
<br>
Maybe, I doubt now, I thought of a usual strike as I said above<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> Are the Indian, Chinese or Russian going on strike too on the 15M? I<br>
> do not think so. Therefore the strike is to put pressure only in the<br>
> West.<br>
You dont think? We have the contacts and they are in this same (r)evolution<br>
look what is happening in this three countries.<br>
<br>
<br>
Ok, great<br>
<br>
<br>
> And, on the other side, what is the meaning of the 12th, I myself support?<br>
> It is a call for the real internationalization of the movement, and<br>
> this internationalization goes first to an vanguard of young people,<br>
> maybe students, with internet and world connections. Etc. You see, it<br>
> is different target, therefore I do not oppose the 15M, as this is<br>
> also an international call and I could see it in the line, but first<br>
> is communication, then is action, and, unless the states do, we can<br>
> communicate now using common sense. Only this could be human hope, and<br>
> this is REALITY NOW.<br>
Are you talking about 15Oct? Because the things are different now.<br>
<br>
Ok, fine. I am not so sure yet, but surely we can advance.<br>
<br>
<br>
> It is about communication, it is about information, because for the<br>
> first time in history we are not doomed to irrationality as in the<br>
> past. It is now for the first time, as we are global, or, at less, we<br>
> want to become global, that we can put in place common sense and<br>
> advance from it together, and our target is no to make a strike of<br>
> some, but to make a call for the world to work together.<br>
If they work together a lot of them will stop to work for the actual<br>
institutions and business, can we call this a strike?<br>
<br>
<br>
Ok, got your point.<br>
Just now I remember that I wrote it to defend the actions on the 12th you<br>
opposed as per below and from this my arguments started. I do not really<br>
want to discuss put brakes to your initiative or any other and wished the<br>
same for the one related to the 12thM.<br>
<br>
<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
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> [mailto:<a href="mailto:squares-bounces@lists.takethesquare.net">squares-bounces@lists.takethesquare.net</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> <a href="mailto:niel@squat.net">niel@squat.net</a><br>
> Sent: miércoles, 21 de diciembre de 2011 2:02<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:squares@lists.takethesquare.net">squares@lists.takethesquare.net</a><br>
> Cc: Anna Harris; Dr. TR. Rojas-D<br>
> Subject: [Squares] M15 Global Long Term Strike<br>
><br>
> Nikky, we will not be coherent the 12, a little bit more the 15 but we<br>
> will start to be efficient only if we maintain the fight after the 15.<br>
> If you go to meet the workers you have to bring them something new,<br>
> not another demonstration for a saturday. They want the same then us,<br>
> and they are also fade up with the unions mp, the politicians, the law<br>
> and all the institutions.<br>
><br>
> We have now the infrastructure and experience to permit (strike<br>
> kitchens, strike houses, strike funds...) and organize (space for<br>
> meeting, spokes councils, workshops...) the long duration strike. The<br>
> people who want to do it will do it with our support, the same for the<br>
> people who want just one day strike, but the same also for the people<br>
> who can just demonstrate the 12. We are all the 99% in a same fight,<br>
> so how to go in the same direction to support each other?<br>
><br>
> Well if the people in DRY are just organizing another 15O for the 12,<br>
> sorry I will not be in. A lot of people see the next global day as a<br>
> start for an unstoppable process of transition, where we will moving<br>
> forward:<br>
> intensify and coordinate direct actions (sabotages, embargo, strikes...<br>
> with more actors of the society) for one part, intensify and<br>
> coordinate alternatives projects (socials, economics, ecologic... with<br>
> more services for the society) for another.<br>
> Both helping each other because this is what we are, a non stop<br>
> protest thinking the future.<br>
> We have to know what we are doing: I mean what we are and what we want.<br>
><br>
> We are communities (camps, squats, eco-villages, cooperatives,<br>
> autonomous zones, self-managed places...) divided in cooperatives<br>
> (groups of people working on common projects) but all coordinated by<br>
> a GA (horizontal, transparent, open to everybody, looking for<br>
> consensus...) That´s our practice of the real democracy.<br>
><br>
> We want a real democracy (that the actual institutions work how we<br>
> practice the real direct democracy, or create new ones) so we pressure<br>
> for one part the actual institutions (police, universities,<br>
> parliaments, banks, media...) with direct actions --> and the long<br>
> term strike is the most coherent but we also create a maximum of<br>
> communities and cooperatives (working<br>
> groups) coordinated by the same GA --> and the concept of holistic<br>
> cooperative is the most coherent.<br>
><br>
> Our goal is not to make the most attractive community but to create<br>
> and coordinate a maximum of different cooperatives, everyday more self<br>
> managed and self-sufficients.<br>
> And it´s not to make a big march all together every six month like the<br>
> unions, but to make that a maximum of people start to coordinate actions.<br>
><br>
> We have today the power (knowledge, contacts, technology,<br>
> opportunity...) to reinvent the strike but also to reinvent the world.<br>
> The farmers instead of burning their food in front of their<br>
> distributers will feed the people in long term strike, action with an<br>
> useful double effect and we have to organize this. We can also<br>
> organize grouped buying or exchanges social currencies and services<br>
> with this producers to include new useful products/services inside the<br>
> cooperative. And try to feed neighborhoods, workers, communities in<br>
> sustainable projects. But also you instead of cleaning your camp<br>
> tomorrow, go to clean your neighborhood, show that this kind of<br>
> cooperatives will be possible in a higher level after the 15, if not, your<br>
camp serve to nothing.<br>
> Instead of organizing a conference on economy in the university tent,<br>
> organize one year classes of economy with other outraged professor and<br>
> economists directly on your campus, or just a platform of preparation<br>
> for the exams until the end of the year.<br>
> Instead of stopping your public transport, maintain a free transport<br>
> for your communities, your workers, your neighborhood...<br>
><br>
> Well I really think that it´s the logical road to this peaceful<br>
> (r)evolution we all look for and because it´s possible, everyday more<br>
> people are working on it :) But the most important is to know that<br>
> this is our direction, not only the<br>
> 12 or the 15, because if we don´t know a total success the 15 we need<br>
> this work to help us for the 16, and for the 17... This is just the<br>
beginning!<br>
> Seguimos adelante.<br>
><br>
> (What do you think about the title of the thread?)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>> Please send this kind of messages in squares list with (15M Global<br>
>> Strike)<br>
>> that can help more people to understand you.<br>
>><br>
>> The workers who take the street just one day are reformists, they ask<br>
>> to the state or their institution or their boss to listen their<br>
>> voices and to change in reaction. We are talking about peaceful<br>
>> revolutions, did you ever seen that in one day?<br>
>> The reformists just can be agree with this option to continue the<br>
>> fight, it´s the best option to pressure the institution you want to<br>
>> reform so the consensus is easy.<br>
>> We have to focus on the same objective if we are a global movement<br>
>> and it´s easy to know that few things are consensuated in this<br>
>> movement, we want a real democracy now, we work on, and as a movement<br>
>> we extend and connect them because we all agree that our methodology<br>
>> of assembly/consensus is the way to organize us (policy, economy,<br>
>> property...). For this some of us want to reform institutions and<br>
>> other want to create new ones, own ones but we all want a global<br>
>> change. So the most radical have to present a concrete alternative<br>
>> and the most reformists have to radicalize their modes of action. And<br>
>> it looks like the both are going in this direction.<br>
>> The first objective of a responsible member of direct action is to<br>
>> make that a maximum of people do direct actions, before doing actions<br>
>> with is own affinity group, and outreach will help bringing unions<br>
>> mp, workers, farmers, students to the spokes council to organize<br>
>> concrete coordinated actions on 15M, AFTER AND BEFORE.<br>
>> I think that it´s better to separate outreach ¨labor¨ and outreach<br>
>> ¨community¨ who work to THE OBJECTIVE of the movement: start, improve<br>
>> and connect communities funccioning with this real democracy in a<br>
>> maximum of spaces and sectors of the society, it´s also the best work<br>
>> to provide real alternatives (economic, ecologic, industrials...) to<br>
>> maintain the fight on 15M, AFTER AND BEFORE.<br>
>> Press have to start to communicate on it (better with manual and<br>
>> concrete<br>
>> plans) and international have to stay connected with the global project.<br>
>> I have more specified informations by cities/working groups/people at<br>
>> a local or global level and we can talk about it on skype:<br>
>> ci-syntagma, I´m also working in a general video but it can be large<br>
>> and take time...<br>
>> In London or in Barcelona, the people works for the 15M global<br>
>> strike, since I arrived everybody is talking about it, and the only<br>
>> one argument to organize a global day the 12 is for the people who<br>
>> cannot strike the 15, but people who support the 15, and as I said<br>
>> before the best way to support this day is to open a big platform of<br>
>> mobilization for the 15 during the 12 like re-taking the squares as<br>
>> the american and spanish want to do.<br>
>><br>
>>> Global Strike May 2012 is not a strike in the way it is usually<br>
>>> meant of withdrawing labour in order to pressure bosses for increase<br>
>>> in wages or better working conditions. What we are proposing is a<br>
>>> continuous strike, a permanent withdrawal from the current system<br>
>>> and switching to an alternative one. In order to make this feasible,<br>
>>> the alternative system needs to be up and running by May next year.<br>
>>> Outrageous! Impossible!<br>
>>> Yes.<br>
>>> I<br>
>>> agree with you. Nevertheless it has to happen if we are serious<br>
>>> about moving from this morally bankrupt and physically damaging path<br>
>>> we are on, to a sustainable system that puts people before profit.<br>
>>><br>
>>> We need to become aware of our part in maintaining the system.<br>
>>> Everytime<br>
>>> we<br>
>>> use money to make a transaction, but more than that, actually our<br>
>>> whole culture is predicated on the system continuing. We are trapped<br>
>>> in it and though we know it is leading to our self-destruction, we<br>
>>> cannot get out of it, EXCEPT by creating the alternative. We are<br>
>>> putting our energy into demos, protests, sit-ins, temporary strikes<br>
>>> of 1 day or 3 days, which are supposed to gather momentum, spread<br>
>>> the word, show our power to the 1%, and at the same time we are<br>
>>> totally comitted to maintaining the system in our daily lives, a<br>
>>> system which separates us and disempowers us. If our energies were<br>
>>> concentrating on developing a system that serves the people, not in<br>
>>> theory, but in actuality we would overcome our isolation and empower<br>
>>> ourselves. Very much as Transition Towns have been doing.<br>
>>> GlobalStrike 2012 is not a call to get masses out on the streets, it<br>
>>> is a clarion call to stop colluding with the system, while at the<br>
>>> same time trying to fight it. That schizophrenia has to be replaced<br>
>>> by the singular intention of withdrawing from the present morally<br>
>>> bankrupt and physically damaging system, and together building a new<br>
>>> one.<br>
>>> Maybe you want to know what it is going to be like – this new<br>
>>> system- before you commit yourself. Sorry, the commitment comes<br>
>>> first. That’s asking a lot. Yes, it is asking for everything you<br>
>>> got. Remember what is at stake here is the possibility of the<br>
>>> continuation of human existence.<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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