[OccupySheffield] [OccupySheffieldPrivate] public GAs

Wed Feb 8 13:05:37 GMT 2012

Who ever said you or anyone has no say in decisions, just because you
haven't slept there, is wrong, out-of-order and doesn't deserved to be
involved in a movement where some can physically camp there and some can't.

Power-craving people, who take it on themselves to make unilateral decisions
(SUCH AS NICOLE) i.e. making the decision to hand over the citadel to Circus
without group consensus, are just perpetuating negative energy, 'LACK OF
TRANSPARENCY' and self-serving clique elitism!

I propose: at tonight's GA that we as Occupy Sheffield vote on whether or
not we want to fight for the citadel, as the landlord apparently needs to
know one way or the other.

Well, this is just what I've been able to make sense of so far, in an
increasingly chaotic situation.

X Dawn x   

From: Leela Simms [mailto:leela.simms at yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: 07 February 2012 10:05
To: Mick Ibbotson; occupysheffield at email-lists.org
Subject: Re: [OccupySheffield] [OccupySheffieldPrivate] public GAs

I'm as confused as most people seem to be!!  Is there a GA tonight or not -
I was told that they were Tues, Thurs & Saturday but       

this seems to have been changed (yet again)  I know ................ let's
have another GA to decide (for the benefit of those not present

at previous GAs but who don't want to be excluded from decision making) and,
of course, we have to include everyone in our decisions

(unless you have never slept on camp and then you have no part to play in
the decision as to whether the camp remains or not)  I was

told this on my last visit to camp and have come away feeling very EXCLUDED
from the 'elitist' group of individuals who seem to be

running the camp.

Mick - you describe yourself as an 'outsider'.  Well, that's how I feel now,
even though I have been involved since day 1 and was one of the 'elite' 

who took the Citadel on 28 December and spent the following 3 weeks cleaning
the place to get it ready for the National Conference!

Now I have been told that I have no say in decision making about the camp.  

Power corrupts - even those sad individuals who have found their 'niche'  in
the occupy camps.

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From: Mick Ibbotson <zapatista2010 at googlemail.com>
To: occupysheffield at email-lists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2012, 7:59
Subject: Re: [OccupySheffieldPrivate] [OccupySheffield] public GAs

Is this decision a reversal of last weeks - last published (27th Jan) GA
decision to hold GA's on Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday?  Will this decision be
changed again - say next week to Monday, Wednesday, Saturday? dependent on
who runs the GA? It might be helpful to list attendees so people can see who
reached 'consensus

As an outsider, its impossible to commit to GA's as you keep moving the
goalposts - from what I experienced at the Citadel on sunday - you have
bigger issues to consider rather than whether to serve digestives or rich
tea with the camp tea? Perhaps its just me, but something is not right and
the falling off of numbers seems to underline it. Most revolutions tend to
gain momentum, with Occupy its going the other way.

Mick

http://lookinluckout.blogspot.com/

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From: Sarah Wild <mailto:flyingtroutx at hotmail.com>  

To: occupysheffield at email-lists.org 

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:44 PM

Subject: [OccupySheffield] public GAs

Sorry, misleading title as every GA is public.  

It was decided at the meeting tonight (again I think!) that we would have
GAs at camp/citadel on Monday, Weds and Friday - to leave Tuesday and
Thursday free for working group/ alternative meetings. 

Most people agreed it would be good to have a Saturday public GA slot
somewhere outside of the established Occupy spaces. 

I think the town hall would be good, at around 3pm. However, I don't think
this should be a normal GA. What about it being something along the lines
of, "Occupy, What's it all about? What do we want, What do we want to
achieve?"

Anyway, it's late and I'm rambling. Would just appreciate some input on
where people think this should go. 

Thanks loads

x

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